Comments on: Religious Rights of Students in Public Education http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/ Life As it Is Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:13:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-19405 Jen Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:37:58 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-19405 <b>Cynthia</b>, sorry, a little tongue in cheek there! Yes, the same concept is included in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. However, Canadians don't have the same degree of freedom of expression offered by the U.S. First Amendment. Bias laws in Canada trump free speech in many cases. And the U.S. is headed in that direction. Cynthia, sorry, a little tongue in cheek there! Yes, the same concept is included in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. However, Canadians don’t have the same degree of freedom of expression offered by the U.S. First Amendment. Bias laws in Canada trump free speech in many cases. And the U.S. is headed in that direction.

]]> By: Cynthia http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-19392 Cynthia Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:49:11 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-19392 "Jane, since Canada has no First Amendment, I’m not a bit surprised that you find it to be worse!" Sorry, but this statement is incorrect in intent. Free speech is protected in Canada under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Same concept, different name. “Jane, since Canada has no First Amendment, I’m not a bit surprised that you find it to be worse!”

Sorry, but this statement is incorrect in intent. Free speech is protected in Canada under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Same concept, different name.

]]> By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18988 Jen Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:03:28 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18988 <b>Tipper</b>, interesting observation, "I wonder when the first person will try to stop the way things are." It does take just one or two very vocal disgruntled people to change the course. Reminds me of how psychologists say it takes 10 or 12 praises to overcome just one negative word to a child; the one negative has an unfortunate amount of power. Tipper, interesting observation, “I wonder when the first person will try to stop the way things are.” It does take just one or two very vocal disgruntled people to change the course. Reminds me of how psychologists say it takes 10 or 12 praises to overcome just one negative word to a child; the one negative has an unfortunate amount of power.

]]> By: Tipper http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18977 Tipper Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:39:36 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18977 Your are exactly right about what the First Amendment means. Many people have been led to believe it means no mention of God whatsoever in public places which is so not true. I'm lucky that my girls go to a small rural school where mentioning God is not frowned upon-its even encouraged in some classrooms. But even in my small area-I wonder when the first person will try to stop the way things are. Your are exactly right about what the First Amendment means. Many people have been led to believe it means no mention of God whatsoever in public places which is so not true. I’m lucky that my girls go to a small rural school where mentioning God is not frowned upon-its even encouraged in some classrooms. But even in my small area-I wonder when the first person will try to stop the way things are.

]]> By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18915 Jen Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:38:02 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18915 <b>Heather</b>, thanks! <b>Mandi</b>, I followed the link, and I tend to agree with you; probably not a problem with an Islamic prayer on the boy's paper, especially since other religious content was allowed, such as Hindu, Buddhist, etc. art which was hanging on walls in the school. <b>Jane</b>, since Canada has no First Amendment, I'm not a bit surprised that you find it to be worse! Heather, thanks!

Mandi, I followed the link, and I tend to agree with you; probably not a problem with an Islamic prayer on the boy’s paper, especially since other religious content was allowed, such as Hindu, Buddhist, etc. art which was hanging on walls in the school.

Jane, since Canada has no First Amendment, I’m not a bit surprised that you find it to be worse!

]]> By: Jane http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18891 Jane Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:53:43 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18891 I am with you on this one! I think Canada can be worse than the States with intolerance of Christianity. EVERYTHING else goes- in my area, a lot of focus is put on First Nation religion in schools. First Nation culture is a great part of our history, but I take exception to the fact that Jesus is banned from our classrooms. So far we have not run into teachers that have caused a problem, but when that comes, we may be homeschooling again. The principle of such blatant discrimination just gets to me! I have never heard of a student having to sign a contract like that in art class. I am with you on this one! I think Canada can be worse than the States with intolerance of Christianity. EVERYTHING else goes- in my area, a lot of focus is put on First Nation religion in schools. First Nation culture is a great part of our history, but I take exception to the fact that Jesus is banned from our classrooms. So far we have not run into teachers that have caused a problem, but when that comes, we may be homeschooling again. The principle of such blatant discrimination just gets to me! I have never heard of a student having to sign a contract like that in art class.

]]> By: Mandi http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18870 Mandi Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:01:09 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18870 Would this have even been a problem if this was an Islamic prayer lettered across the artwork? Here's an interesting article I came across lately: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61129 Oh - where are we headed as a nation? ) : Would this have even been a problem if this was an Islamic prayer lettered across the artwork? Here’s an interesting article I came across lately:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61129

Oh - where are we headed as a nation? ) :

]]> By: Heather Young http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18857 Heather Young Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:24:09 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18857 Absolutely! Go you! Absolutely! Go you!

]]> By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18853 Jen Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:00:38 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18853 <b>Mrs. Darling</b>, it's actually really simple! If your son, who I know attends a public school, ever tells you that a teacher didn't allow him to have religious content in an assignment, march yourself right down to the schoolhouse with the DOE document in hand, which I linked to above. If Peter wants to draw a picture of Jesus, or angels, or crosses, on his art paper, he has every right to do so. If he has an assignment to write about one of his heroes and he chooses Jesus Christ, he also has every right. But with all the misinformation out there, and simply the current public school climate, students and even teachers are under the false impression that this isn't allowed, under some bogus and overworked concept of "separation of church and state." Mrs. Darling, it’s actually really simple! If your son, who I know attends a public school, ever tells you that a teacher didn’t allow him to have religious content in an assignment, march yourself right down to the schoolhouse with the DOE document in hand, which I linked to above. If Peter wants to draw a picture of Jesus, or angels, or crosses, on his art paper, he has every right to do so. If he has an assignment to write about one of his heroes and he chooses Jesus Christ, he also has every right.

But with all the misinformation out there, and simply the current public school climate, students and even teachers are under the false impression that this isn’t allowed, under some bogus and overworked concept of “separation of church and state.”

]]> By: mrs darling http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18849 mrs darling Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:46:27 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2008/04/22/religious-rights-of-students-in-public-education/#comment-18849 Goodness girl you've gotten so deep over here you're leaving poor little ole me out in the dust. I just cant concentrate long enough to wrap my brain around all your deep thoughts, but from what I read im thinkin' I agree with you! LOL Goodness girl you’ve gotten so deep over here you’re leaving poor little ole me out in the dust. I just cant concentrate long enough to wrap my brain around all your deep thoughts, but from what I read im thinkin’ I agree with you! LOL

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