Comments on: In Him we live and move and have our being http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/ Seeking Wisdom, Washing Dishes Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:29:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-57767 Jen Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:59:16 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-57767 Thanks, SandiWong, for your thoughtful comment. Yes, it is the Holy Spirit who draws people to God, and all our intellectualism is dust if not brought before the Lord. Thanks, SandiWong, for your thoughtful comment. Yes, it is the Holy Spirit who draws people to God, and all our intellectualism is dust if not brought before the Lord.

]]> By: SandiWong http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-57752 SandiWong Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:53:00 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-57752 It was brilliant of the Apostle Paul, I believe it does help to know the world view of the people we are trying to reach for Christ but what if it's not a people what if it's an individual one meets on the train, on the plain at the store? I believe we rush to speak christianese and not listen to the person we are trying to reach. A knowlegde of most world views is good but no matter how intellectual we are it is the Holy spirit who draws the individual, Paul was an intellectual but it was the Holy Spirit who was guiding him what to say. It is the Holy Spirit who should guide us what to say. It was brilliant of the Apostle Paul, I believe it does help to know the world view of the people we are trying to reach for Christ but what if it’s not a people what if it’s an individual one meets on the train, on the plain at the store? I believe we rush to speak christianese and not listen to the person we are trying to reach. A knowlegde of most world views is good but no matter how intellectual we are it is the Holy spirit who draws the individual, Paul was an intellectual but it was the Holy Spirit who was guiding him what to say. It is the Holy Spirit who should guide us what to say.

]]> By: victor Choudhrie http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-47665 victor Choudhrie Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:54:10 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-47665 God is active and present even in heathen literature of all religions, in Hindu Vedas, Muslim Quran and just about every rligion. He was in the astrological books of the Magi, the Persian priests strongly enough for them to sell everything and take a thousand mile trip accros the desert to Bethleham. Evangelism without knowing the religious worldview of the people you are going to evangelize is doomed to failure. Paul was a master contextulizer and hence immensly successful. Christianity is not knowledge based, it is Christ based which is relational, experiential and modellling. Christ does not look at your academic achievement, He looks at your heart. V. God is active and present even in heathen literature of all religions, in Hindu Vedas, Muslim Quran and just about every rligion. He was in the astrological books of the Magi, the Persian priests strongly enough for them to sell everything and take a thousand mile trip accros the desert to Bethleham. Evangelism without knowing the religious worldview of the people you are going to evangelize is doomed to failure. Paul was a master contextulizer and hence immensly successful. Christianity is not knowledge based, it is Christ based which is relational, experiential and modellling. Christ does not look at your academic achievement, He looks at your heart. V.

]]> By: Greg http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-46458 Greg Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:55:47 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-46458 “For in him we live and move and have our being.” This points to the fact that we have never been separate from God, and we are still not. God is What Is. The kingdom of God is spread upon the earth, but men do not see it. This Is It. It speaks to an interdependence WITH God, which is the basis of compassion. The idea of dependence points more towards condescension than compassion. Maybe... “For in him we live and move and have our being.”

This points to the fact that we have never been separate from God, and we are still not.

God is What Is.

The kingdom of God is spread upon the earth, but men do not see it.

This Is It.

It speaks to an interdependence WITH God, which is the basis of compassion.

The idea of dependence points more towards condescension than compassion.

Maybe…

]]> By: john http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-29946 john Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:43:27 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-29946 VERY nicely done. Luke, the author of Acts, was quoting Paul in this passage of course. But it's very likely that he got it right, for Paul also cited the 2nd line of the same verse in Titus 1:12: "They fashioned a tomb for thee, O holy and high one The Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies! (Titus 1:12) But thou art not dead: thou livest and abidest forever, For in thee we live and move and have our being. (Acts 17:28)" – Epimenides, Cretica I have posted an article demonstrating the use of Synoptic material in the first epistle of Clement of Rome if you are interested in this sort of thing: http://www.mortalresurrection.com/ The site exists to generate pre-publication interest for a book which shows the historicity of th resurrection of Christ. VERY nicely done. Luke, the author of Acts, was quoting Paul in this passage of course. But it’s very likely that he got it right, for Paul also cited the 2nd line of the same verse in Titus 1:12:

“They fashioned a tomb for thee, O holy and high one
The Cretans, always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies! (Titus 1:12)
But thou art not dead: thou livest and abidest forever,
For in thee we live and move and have our being. (Acts 17:28)”

– Epimenides, Cretica

I have posted an article demonstrating the use of Synoptic material in the first epistle of Clement of Rome if you are interested in this sort of thing:

http://www.mortalresurrection.com/

The site exists to generate pre-publication interest for a book which shows the historicity of th resurrection of Christ.

]]> By:   International Freedom in Education Day http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-23083   International Freedom in Education Day Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:29:58 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-23083 [...] in Germany, spend some time browsing her site. I’ve written several times, including here and here, about Germany’s mandatory school laws which leave homeschooling families living in fear, [...] […] in Germany, spend some time browsing her site. I’ve written several times, including here and here, about Germany’s mandatory school laws which leave homeschooling families living in fear, […]

]]> By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-34 Jen Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:35:06 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-34 Sagerat - let me know if you ever plan a Central Oregon homeschool get-together... Enjoy the sunshine! Jen Sagerat - let me know if you ever plan a Central Oregon homeschool get-together…

Enjoy the sunshine!

Jen

]]> By: sagerats http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-31 sagerats Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:21:01 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-31 Hi! Thanks for stopping by my blog. Yep, I live in Central Oregon. How fun to meet you! I enjoyed this post, it is so very true. The poem was beautiful! Abiding in the Vine! Hi! Thanks for stopping by my blog. Yep, I live in Central Oregon. How fun to meet you!

I enjoyed this post, it is so very true. The poem was beautiful!

Abiding in the Vine!

]]> By: Jen http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-30 Jen Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:52:44 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-30 Frances, thanks so much for the input! I agree, Goethe isn't the perfect example...and neither was Epimenides in Paul's day. Can you think of another German poet/writer? I would love to have some other well-known figures to look at. I honestly don't know enough about German lit to offer a lot, I just really liked the idea of offering this. Thanks again, blessings, Jennifer Frances, thanks so much for the input! I agree, Goethe isn’t the perfect example…and neither was Epimenides in Paul’s day.

Can you think of another German poet/writer? I would love to have some other well-known figures to look at. I honestly don’t know enough about German lit to offer a lot, I just really liked the idea of offering this.

Thanks again, blessings,

Jennifer

]]> By: Frances http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-29 Frances Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:29:35 +0000 http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/20/in-him-we-live-and-move-and-have-our-being/#comment-29 Very true. If we could only use more of these sorts of examples it might open people's eyes. However, Goethe himself did not apparently know the God he claimed to praise. He was a child of the Enlightenment and member of the Illuminati (see 'Neue Berthelsmann Lexikon' amongst other sources) so that what he claimed to worship as God could arguably be seen to be what is often touted in New Age circles as god. Very true. If we could only use more of these sorts of examples it might open people’s eyes. However, Goethe himself did not apparently know the God he claimed to praise. He was a child of the Enlightenment and member of the Illuminati (see ‘Neue Berthelsmann Lexikon’ amongst other sources) so that what he claimed to worship as God could arguably be seen to be what is often touted in New Age circles as god.

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