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		<title>By: &#160; German Homeschooling Ban Comes to Blog Talk Radio Tomorrow!</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-22830</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; German Homeschooling Ban Comes to Blog Talk Radio Tomorrow!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re a homeschooler or not, I&#8217;d encourage anyone who cares about basic human rights, parental rights, educational choice, and living in a free and democratic society, to tune in and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you&#8217;re a homeschooler or not, I&#8217;d encourage anyone who cares about basic human rights, parental rights, educational choice, and living in a free and democratic society, to tune in and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diary of 1 &#187; Bonhoeffer and Gatto on Education</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Diary of 1 &#187; Bonhoeffer and Gatto on Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, did the Bonhoeffer family have it right, way back in the first decade of the 1900s! Does German schooling &#8220;break the back&#8221; of its children? Could this be a reason for the number of homeschooling families in Germany, despite the dire consequences? Yes, it&#8217;s illegal, since about 1938 (and do you know what was happening in 1938?), and you face jail, fines, and loss of custody of your children if you homeschool. Or you simply go into exile and are forced to flee the country. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh, did the Bonhoeffer family have it right, way back in the first decade of the 1900s! Does German schooling &#8220;break the back&#8221; of its children? Could this be a reason for the number of homeschooling families in Germany, despite the dire consequences? Yes, it&#8217;s illegal, since about 1938 (and do you know what was happening in 1938?), and you face jail, fines, and loss of custody of your children if you homeschool. Or you simply go into exile and are forced to flee the country. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diary of 1 &#187; &#8220;Homeschooling is Illegal in France,&#8221; She Said.</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Diary of 1 &#187; &#8220;Homeschooling is Illegal in France,&#8221; She Said.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I immediately assured Elise that homeschooling was, in fact, legal in France. Not so in Germany, but France, yes. Elise would not back down. She insisted over and over that it was illegal, that her teachers had told her so. I&#8217;ll try not to go on a rant about that kind of propaganda, but the source of her information infuriated me. It wasn&#8217;t until I sat her down at the computer and showed her Les Enfants d&#8217;Abord that she relented. I wanted her to see, in her own language, the truth of the matter. Homeschool Legal Defense Association is also a good source of information on the legality of homeschooling across the world, but for Elise, she needed French intelligence. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I immediately assured Elise that homeschooling was, in fact, legal in France. Not so in Germany, but France, yes. Elise would not back down. She insisted over and over that it was illegal, that her teachers had told her so. I&#8217;ll try not to go on a rant about that kind of propaganda, but the source of her information infuriated me. It wasn&#8217;t until I sat her down at the computer and showed her Les Enfants d&#8217;Abord that she relented. I wanted her to see, in her own language, the truth of the matter. Homeschool Legal Defense Association is also a good source of information on the legality of homeschooling across the world, but for Elise, she needed French intelligence. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kinderlehrer</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinderlehrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jen

Thanks for your kind words.

The url I gave above will now work as well.

I should have said educatinggermany.7doves.com (without the &#039;www&#039;) though!

Kind regards
Kinderlehrer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind words.</p>
<p>The url I gave above will now work as well.</p>
<p>I should have said educatinggermany.7doves.com (without the &#8216;www&#8217;) though!</p>
<p>Kind regards<br />
Kinderlehrer</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinderlehrer, thanks for the info. on  your site. I love how you set out the task of those seeking reform in home education: &quot;They need to understand where the social majority are coming from; understand the objections and pitch relevant information in succinct chunks with dignity to break down personal barriers.&quot;

By the way, the link you posted above didn&#039;t work for me. Here is how I got to your site: http://www.7doves.com

Jennifer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinderlehrer, thanks for the info. on  your site. I love how you set out the task of those seeking reform in home education: &#8220;They need to understand where the social majority are coming from; understand the objections and pitch relevant information in succinct chunks with dignity to break down personal barriers.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, the link you posted above didn&#8217;t work for me. Here is how I got to your site: <a href="http://www.7doves.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.7doves.com</a></p>
<p>Jennifer</p>
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		<title>By: Mama Squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama Squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got here through the Carnival of Homeschooling--and I&#039;ve linked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got here through the Carnival of Homeschooling&#8211;and I&#8217;ve linked.</p>
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		<title>By: Kinderlehrer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kinderlehrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jen, 

I have been impassioned by Melissa&#039;s plight - the latest in several over the last short while.  Although I am &#039;only 1&#039; I wanted to try and support home education reform in Germany.  

I felt I could do this with a blog www.educatinggermany.7doves.com. 

My aim is to provide a forum for english-speaking people worldwide to 
understand the main arguments so they can effectively lobby those that are in positions to respond, internationally and within Germany, to legalise home education.

I do hope you visit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jen, </p>
<p>I have been impassioned by Melissa&#8217;s plight &#8211; the latest in several over the last short while.  Although I am &#8216;only 1&#8242; I wanted to try and support home education reform in Germany.  </p>
<p>I felt I could do this with a blog <a href="http://www.educatinggermany.7doves.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.educatinggermany.7doves.com</a>. </p>
<p>My aim is to provide a forum for english-speaking people worldwide to<br />
understand the main arguments so they can effectively lobby those that are in positions to respond, internationally and within Germany, to legalise home education.</p>
<p>I do hope you visit!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add that what&#039;s going on in Germany goes far beyond harrassment; I would call it terrorism. I was in contact with a U.S. military family stationed in Germany yesterday, who homeschools their children. I&#039;m assuming that as U.S. military they are exempt from the ban on homeschooling. But, the mother said they keep their children inside all day, so as not to draw attention to the fact that their children are not in school. Then, when German children are out of school, their kids get to go outside. If you are a homeschooling family in Germany, you are living in a state of fear and terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add that what&#8217;s going on in Germany goes far beyond harrassment; I would call it terrorism. I was in contact with a U.S. military family stationed in Germany yesterday, who homeschools their children. I&#8217;m assuming that as U.S. military they are exempt from the ban on homeschooling. But, the mother said they keep their children inside all day, so as not to draw attention to the fact that their children are not in school. Then, when German children are out of school, their kids get to go outside. If you are a homeschooling family in Germany, you are living in a state of fear and terror.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Uebermensch syndrome&quot; - very interesting, and obviously a frightening reality. Thank you for writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Uebermensch syndrome&#8221; &#8211; very interesting, and obviously a frightening reality. Thank you for writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nom de Plume</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryof1.com/2007/03/07/condoleezza-what-about-gemany/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Nom de Plume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re analysis of the situation here in Germany (at least in this particular
case) is quite accurate. The reality here on the ground is even more
frightening than you may know. As a &quot;free thinking foreigner&quot; I have been the
victim of systematic and institionalized harassment for fifteen years now.

Just yesterday I was harassed (once again) by a mafia like organization called
the GEZ (http://www.gez.de). The supposed purpose of this organization is to 
issue television/radio licenses and &quot;collect fees.&quot; Despite the fact that 
I don&#039;t care to watch or listen to commercial broadcasting-- hence I posses
neither a television nor radio-- and that I have responded more than once to 
their letters as well as have had let them in to my home to &quot;control&quot; my
living environment, they Stijl seem to insist on paying regular &quot;shakedown&quot; 
visits. After informing the GEZ&#039;s &quot;thug&quot; once more that I considered such
visits a form of harassment and a violation of my privacy, he once again 
insisted it was the &quot;law.&quot; This may seem on the surface to be a minor 
infraction, but as previously mentioned I&#039;ve already experienced 15 years 
of similar treatment from various similar organizations who seem to insist 
that everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

I must say though the situation in the West (geographical as opposed to the
former political East and West) of Germany is much better than in Bavaria. 
Even the Germans outside of Bavaria refer to Bavarians as Bazis 
(Short for Bavarian and Nazi). Probably the worst of all are the cities of
Nuremberg and Fuerth. The city of Fuerth has even gone as far as to 
have given it&#039;s highest honor Ehrenburger (Honored Citizen) 
to Henry Kissinger http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm.

About 6 months ago, the city of Fuerth sent the Cripo to confiscate my 
books. To do so they not only broke into my flat, but the neighbor&#039;s flat 
(also a foreigner) as well. They seem to be under the impression that because 
I don&#039;t earn very much money (mostly because of restrictions which they
themselves have placed upon me over the years), I must be hiding or laundering 
money. Although they weren&#039;t  able to find any evidence to convict me, they 
are still holding on to my books and they have made no indication as to when 
they will be returned. What this means is I have already missed the deadline 
to report the last quarterly tax deadline for 2006 and it&#039;s just a matter of 
days before the Finanzamt (Tax Office) will (once again) start with the next 
round of harassment. So instead of spending my time trying to earn enough 
money to survive, I&#039;ll be spending late hours and weekends answering their 
letters which are written using a form of German which even native speaking 
German&#039;s have difficulty with.

I would like to tell you the entire history of what I have experienced since I
have been here but it would take way too long. Besides-- for the most serious
offenses-- this isn&#039;t the right forum. I would like to elaborate on one thing 
however. It&#039;s what I call the &quot;Uebermensch syndrome.&quot; Namely a form of arrogance
which takes form in a German belief that they are superior to
everyone else. They seem to believe that-- with enough logic-- they can
justify &quot;any behavior as appropriate&quot; regardless of how it may make you feel
as a &quot;person.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re analysis of the situation here in Germany (at least in this particular<br />
case) is quite accurate. The reality here on the ground is even more<br />
frightening than you may know. As a &#8220;free thinking foreigner&#8221; I have been the<br />
victim of systematic and institionalized harassment for fifteen years now.</p>
<p>Just yesterday I was harassed (once again) by a mafia like organization called<br />
the GEZ (<a href="http://www.gez.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.gez.de</a>). The supposed purpose of this organization is to<br />
issue television/radio licenses and &#8220;collect fees.&#8221; Despite the fact that<br />
I don&#8217;t care to watch or listen to commercial broadcasting&#8211; hence I posses<br />
neither a television nor radio&#8211; and that I have responded more than once to<br />
their letters as well as have had let them in to my home to &#8220;control&#8221; my<br />
living environment, they Stijl seem to insist on paying regular &#8220;shakedown&#8221;<br />
visits. After informing the GEZ&#8217;s &#8220;thug&#8221; once more that I considered such<br />
visits a form of harassment and a violation of my privacy, he once again<br />
insisted it was the &#8220;law.&#8221; This may seem on the surface to be a minor<br />
infraction, but as previously mentioned I&#8217;ve already experienced 15 years<br />
of similar treatment from various similar organizations who seem to insist<br />
that everyone is guilty until proven innocent.</p>
<p>I must say though the situation in the West (geographical as opposed to the<br />
former political East and West) of Germany is much better than in Bavaria.<br />
Even the Germans outside of Bavaria refer to Bavarians as Bazis<br />
(Short for Bavarian and Nazi). Probably the worst of all are the cities of<br />
Nuremberg and Fuerth. The city of Fuerth has even gone as far as to<br />
have given it&#8217;s highest honor Ehrenburger (Honored Citizen)<br />
to Henry Kissinger <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm</a>.</p>
<p>About 6 months ago, the city of Fuerth sent the Cripo to confiscate my<br />
books. To do so they not only broke into my flat, but the neighbor&#8217;s flat<br />
(also a foreigner) as well. They seem to be under the impression that because<br />
I don&#8217;t earn very much money (mostly because of restrictions which they<br />
themselves have placed upon me over the years), I must be hiding or laundering<br />
money. Although they weren&#8217;t  able to find any evidence to convict me, they<br />
are still holding on to my books and they have made no indication as to when<br />
they will be returned. What this means is I have already missed the deadline<br />
to report the last quarterly tax deadline for 2006 and it&#8217;s just a matter of<br />
days before the Finanzamt (Tax Office) will (once again) start with the next<br />
round of harassment. So instead of spending my time trying to earn enough<br />
money to survive, I&#8217;ll be spending late hours and weekends answering their<br />
letters which are written using a form of German which even native speaking<br />
German&#8217;s have difficulty with.</p>
<p>I would like to tell you the entire history of what I have experienced since I<br />
have been here but it would take way too long. Besides&#8211; for the most serious<br />
offenses&#8211; this isn&#8217;t the right forum. I would like to elaborate on one thing<br />
however. It&#8217;s what I call the &#8220;Uebermensch syndrome.&#8221; Namely a form of arrogance<br />
which takes form in a German belief that they are superior to<br />
everyone else. They seem to believe that&#8211; with enough logic&#8211; they can<br />
justify &#8220;any behavior as appropriate&#8221; regardless of how it may make you feel<br />
as a &#8220;person.&#8221;</p>
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